Discussion:
Cannot invoke OLE server?
Kellogg, Michael
2006-02-01 18:12:59 UTC
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Hi there!

Anybody have a fix for broken OLEs, or have any idea what's causing the
problem? When I right-click the Visio image in .fm, it apparently
recognizes it as a "Visio Object", but selecting Edit or Open results in
the dreaded "Cannot invoke OLE server" dialog.

I tried Edit>Links but options in the Edit>Links dialog are grayed-out
darn it (they're also grayed-out in the original .fm, whose OLE2s do
work -- I'm seeking an easy solution vs. re-importing, copy/pasting from
the working .fm, etc. I've got a lot of files to process). In the
broken-OLE2 .fm, Object Properties do indicate OLE2 -- I'm hoping the
OLE2s are actually there and (given a miracle solution) launchable. I
tried Edit>Update References (OLE Links Marked for Manual Update),
producing no errors. FYI the Visio images were originally imported
(File>Import>Object>Create from file, "Link" UNchecked) w/the intention
of fully embedding -- NOT linking by reference. The files aren't on a
network drive, but get checked out of Documentum by various users. My
guess is that there's a subtle problem such as Visio version
incompatibility (e.g., a user w/a previous version of Visio opened the
.fm, modified the .vsd, saved, causing a disconnect of some type).

Advice welcome :)

FrameMaker v7.1
Visio Pro 2003 SPS 2
Rick Quatro
2006-02-01 18:17:44 UTC
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Hi Michael,

This is probably not the advice you wanted, but I would discourage you from
using OLE objects in FrameMaker. The safest, most-reliable approach is to
save your Visio images in a graphic format and import the graphic by
reference into FrameMaker. I am not familiar with Visio, so I can't suggest
a graphic format, but perhaps you can use EPS or PDF.

OLE objects have the same disadvantage as graphics imported by copy: when
something goes wrong with the graphics, the only solution is to reimport
them.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

Hi there!

Anybody have a fix for broken OLEs, or have any idea what's causing the
problem? When I right-click the Visio image in .fm, it apparently
recognizes it as a "Visio Object", but selecting Edit or Open results in
the dreaded "Cannot invoke OLE server" dialog.

I tried Edit>Links but options in the Edit>Links dialog are grayed-out
darn it (they're also grayed-out in the original .fm, whose OLE2s do
work -- I'm seeking an easy solution vs. re-importing, copy/pasting from
the working .fm, etc. I've got a lot of files to process). In the
broken-OLE2 .fm, Object Properties do indicate OLE2 -- I'm hoping the
OLE2s are actually there and (given a miracle solution) launchable. I
tried Edit>Update References (OLE Links Marked for Manual Update),
producing no errors. FYI the Visio images were originally imported
(File>Import>Object>Create from file, "Link" UNchecked) w/the intention
of fully embedding -- NOT linking by reference. The files aren't on a
network drive, but get checked out of Documentum by various users. My
guess is that there's a subtle problem such as Visio version
incompatibility (e.g., a user w/a previous version of Visio opened the
.fm, modified the .vsd, saved, causing a disconnect of some type).

Advice welcome :)

FrameMaker v7.1
Visio Pro 2003 SPS 2
Andrew Becraft
2006-02-01 18:35:57 UTC
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I am not familiar with Visio, so I can't suggest a graphic format, but
perhaps you can use EPS or PDF.
I've never had good luck with embedding my Visio diagrams as OLE
objects. I've generally used WMF, but sometimes Visio refuses to save
as WMF and I have to use EMF or EPS instead.

Andrew Becraft
Senior Technical Writer
Singlestep Technologies

P: 206.838.7982
E: ***@singlestep.com
Martha J Davidson
2006-02-01 19:31:17 UTC
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I've never had good luck with embedding my Visio diagrams as OLE objects.
I don't have all that many Visio drawings in my doc set, but it's worked
for me for 3 years to use OLE linking for them. It may not be as solid as
saiving the drawings to EPS or PDF, but it saves me a step, and as long as
it isn't broke, I don't want to take the time to fix it.

martha
--
Martha Jane {Kolman | Davidson}
Dances With Words
***@nemasys.com

"Too many words bring about exhaustion."
--Tao Te Ching, Chapter 5 (translated by Sheets/Tovey)

Glenn Voyles
2006-02-01 18:33:22 UTC
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Michael,

I second Rick's opinion: Import by Reference is the way to go.

I've had good results saving PowerPoint slides as *.wmf. Visio also
saves in that format. Unfortunately I had to save a native format
version of the graphic as well as the *.wmf in another folder for Frame
Import.

Glenn

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Subject: Re: Cannot invoke OLE server?

Hi Michael,

This is probably not the advice you wanted, but I would discourage you
from
using OLE objects in FrameMaker. The safest, most-reliable approach is
to
save your Visio images in a graphic format and import the graphic by
reference into FrameMaker. I am not familiar with Visio, so I can't
suggest
a graphic format, but perhaps you can use EPS or PDF.

OLE objects have the same disadvantage as graphics imported by copy:
when
something goes wrong with the graphics, the only solution is to reimport

them.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

Hi there!

Anybody have a fix for broken OLEs, or have any idea what's causing the
problem? When I right-click the Visio image in .fm, it apparently
recognizes it as a "Visio Object", but selecting Edit or Open results in
the dreaded "Cannot invoke OLE server" dialog.

I tried Edit>Links but options in the Edit>Links dialog are grayed-out
darn it (they're also grayed-out in the original .fm, whose OLE2s do
work -- I'm seeking an easy solution vs. re-importing, copy/pasting from
the working .fm, etc. I've got a lot of files to process). In the
broken-OLE2 .fm, Object Properties do indicate OLE2 -- I'm hoping the
OLE2s are actually there and (given a miracle solution) launchable. I
tried Edit>Update References (OLE Links Marked for Manual Update),
producing no errors. FYI the Visio images were originally imported
(File>Import>Object>Create from file, "Link" UNchecked) w/the intention
of fully embedding -- NOT linking by reference. The files aren't on a
network drive, but get checked out of Documentum by various users. My
guess is that there's a subtle problem such as Visio version
incompatibility (e.g., a user w/a previous version of Visio opened the
.fm, modified the .vsd, saved, causing a disconnect of some type).

Advice welcome :)

FrameMaker v7.1
Visio Pro 2003 SPS 2

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