[Framers] FM2019 - 32/64-bit?

The main reason to run the 32-bit version of FrameMaker is that there
is no 64-bit version.

https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2447691

Post by Scott Prentice
If/when you upgrade to FM2019 (or beyond), would any of you be using the
32-bit version? As a plugin developer, I'm thinking that I'll only support
64-bit FM. Is there a reason to support both?
Yes, I've heard that some people will need to run 32-bit FM due to legacy
applications .. are there any other reasons?rs.com

Scott Prentice

2018-09-24 17:47:56 UTC

FM2019 is available as 32-bit and 64-bit. That forum post is talking
about FM2017.

Thanks,
...scott

Post by Robert Lauriston
The main reason to run the 32-bit version of FrameMaker is that there
is no 64-bit version.
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2447691

Ian Proudfoot

2018-09-24 18:20:13 UTC

Scott,

There may be a need to run the 32 bit version if you run into ExtendScript ScriptUI bugs that are only present in the 64 bit version. Hopefully this is a temporary problem...

Ian

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On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 6:48 PM +0100, "Scott Prentice" <***@leximation.com> wrote:

FM2019 is available as 32-bit and 64-bit. That forum post is talking
about FM2017.

Thanks,
...scott

Post by Robert Lauriston
The main reason to run the 32-bit version of FrameMaker is that there
is no 64-bit version.
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2447691

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Scott Prentice

2018-09-24 20:19:53 UTC

Thanks Ian.

Yeah .. I suppose if something is broken in the 64-bit version and it's
working in the 32-bit version, that might be a reason to use it. But if
all's working as expected, I'm just not seeing a reason to use the
32-bit version.

I suppose someone could be using a 32-bit version of Windows, and want
to install FM2019 .. but really? I guess we'll just have to wait and see,

Cheers,
...scott

Post by Ian Proudfoot
Scott,
There may be a need to run the 32 bit version if you run into ExtendScript ScriptUI bugs that are only present in the 64 bit version. Hopefully this is a temporary problem...
Ian
Ian Proudfoot
iTP-X
Bembridge
Isle of Wight
07793 324581
FM2019 is available as 32-bit and 64-bit. That forum post is talking
about FM2017.
Thanks,
...scott

Post by Robert Lauriston
The main reason to run the 32-bit version of FrameMaker is that there
is no 64-bit version.
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2447691

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Lin Sims

2018-09-24 20:47:36 UTC

This is probably a stupid question, but my understanding is that a
scripting language is pure text interpreted by whichever interpreter (in
this case ExtendScript) is installed. If that's the case, does it matter
which version of FM you create the script in? Does the 32-bit version have
different command words and variables or syntax from the 64-bit?

NB: Not a scripter of any sort, haven't looked to see.

Post by Scott Prentice
Thanks Ian.
Yeah .. I suppose if something is broken in the 64-bit version and it's
working in the 32-bit version, that might be a reason to use it. But if
all's working as expected, I'm just not seeing a reason to use the
32-bit version.
I suppose someone could be using a 32-bit version of Windows, and want
to install FM2019 .. but really? I guess we'll just have to wait and see,
Cheers,
...scott

Post by Ian Proudfoot
Scott,
There may be a need to run the 32 bit version if you run into

ExtendScript ScriptUI bugs that are only present in the 64 bit version.
Hopefully this is a temporary problem...

Post by Ian Proudfoot
Ian
Ian Proudfoot
iTP-X
Bembridge
Isle of Wight
07793 324581
FM2019 is available as 32-bit and 64-bit. That forum post is talking
about FM2017.
Thanks,
...scott

Post by Robert Lauriston
The main reason to run the 32-bit version of FrameMaker is that there
is no 64-bit version.
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2447691

Post by Scott Prentice
If/when you upgrade to FM2019 (or beyond), would any of you be using

the

Post by Scott Prentice
32-bit version? As a plugin developer, I'm thinking that I'll only

support

Post by Scott Prentice
64-bit FM. Is there a reason to support both?
Yes, I've heard that some people will need to run 32-bit FM due to

legacy

Post by Scott Prentice
applications .. are there any other reasons?rs.com

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Scott Prentice

2018-09-24 20:53:46 UTC

You're right. It's not the script itself that might differ between
versions, but the code that interprets it might not work quite the same.
Not intentionally, but .. well .. sometimes code just doesn't work
right. :-)

If the 64-bit version didn't work the same as the 32-bit version for the
same script, that would be a bug in FM, not a problem with the script.

Cheers,
...scott

Post by Lin Sims
This is probably a stupid question, but my understanding is that a
scripting language is pure text interpreted by whichever interpreter (in
this case ExtendScript) is installed. If that's the case, does it matter
which version of FM you create the script in? Does the 32-bit version have
different command words and variables or syntax from the 64-bit?
NB: Not a scripter of any sort, haven't looked to see.

Post by Ian Proudfoot
Scott,
There may be a need to run the 32 bit version if you run into

ExtendScript ScriptUI bugs that are only present in the 64 bit version.
Hopefully this is a temporary problem...

Post by Ian Proudfoot
Ian
Ian Proudfoot
iTP-X
Bembridge
Isle of Wight
07793 324581
FM2019 is available as 32-bit and 64-bit. That forum post is talking
about FM2017.
Thanks,
...scott

Post by Robert Lauriston
The main reason to run the 32-bit version of FrameMaker is that there
is no 64-bit version.
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2447691

Post by Scott Prentice
If/when you upgrade to FM2019 (or beyond), would any of you be using

the

Post by Scott Prentice
32-bit version? As a plugin developer, I'm thinking that I'll only

support

Post by Scott Prentice
64-bit FM. Is there a reason to support both?
Yes, I've heard that some people will need to run 32-bit FM due to

legacy

Post by Scott Prentice
applications .. are there any other reasons?rs.com

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2018-09-25 11:10:29 UTC

Lin,
The specific problem that has affected the 64 bit version is due to a
problem with the ScriptUI tree view control. ScriptUI is the way we build
the User Interface for ExtendScript projects. In this case the tree view
does not show any text or allow nodes to be expanded. I have some
applications where this is a critical part of the workflow. Everything works
perfectly on 32 bit version.

Ian

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Of Lin Sims
Sent: 24 September 2018 21:48
To: Frame Users <***@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: [Framers] FM2019 - 32/64-bit?

This is probably a stupid question, but my understanding is that a scripting
language is pure text interpreted by whichever interpreter (in this case
ExtendScript) is installed. If that's the case, does it matter which version
of FM you create the script in? Does the 32-bit version have different
command words and variables or syntax from the 64-bit?

NB: Not a scripter of any sort, haven't looked to see.

Post by Scott Prentice
Thanks Ian.
Yeah .. I suppose if something is broken in the 64-bit version and
it's working in the 32-bit version, that might be a reason to use it.
But if all's working as expected, I'm just not seeing a reason to use
the 32-bit version.
I suppose someone could be using a 32-bit version of Windows, and want
to install FM2019 .. but really? I guess we'll just have to wait and see,
Cheers,
...scott

Post by Ian Proudfoot
Scott,
There may be a need to run the 32 bit version if you run into

ExtendScript ScriptUI bugs that are only present in the 64 bit version.
Hopefully this is a temporary problem...

Post by Ian Proudfoot
Ian
Ian Proudfoot
iTP-X
Bembridge
Isle of Wight
07793 324581
FM2019 is available as 32-bit and 64-bit. That forum post is talking
about FM2017.
Thanks,
...scott

Post by Robert Lauriston
The main reason to run the 32-bit version of FrameMaker is that
there is no 64-bit version.
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2447691

Post by Scott Prentice
If/when you upgrade to FM2019 (or beyond), would any of you be using

the

Post by Scott Prentice
32-bit version? As a plugin developer, I'm thinking that I'll only

support

Post by Scott Prentice
64-bit FM. Is there a reason to support both?
Yes, I've heard that some people will need to run 32-bit FM due to

legacy

Post by Scott Prentice
applications .. are there any other reasons?rs.com

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Rick Quatro

2018-09-25 11:54:11 UTC

Hi Ian,

Did you try putting the tree-view control into a group? There is a related
bug where listboxes don't show any content in some environments unless they
are inside a group or panel. I am not sure if this applies to tree views or
not.

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Subject: Re: [Framers] FM2019 - 32/64-bit?

Lin,
The specific problem that has affected the 64 bit version is due to a
problem with the ScriptUI tree view control. ScriptUI is the way we build
the User Interface for ExtendScript projects. In this case the tree view
does not show any text or allow nodes to be expanded. I have some
applications where this is a critical part of the workflow. Everything works
perfectly on 32 bit version.

Ian

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Of Lin Sims
Sent: 24 September 2018 21:48
To: Frame Users <***@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: [Framers] FM2019 - 32/64-bit?

This is probably a stupid question, but my understanding is that a scripting
language is pure text interpreted by whichever interpreter (in this case
ExtendScript) is installed. If that's the case, does it matter which version
of FM you create the script in? Does the 32-bit version have different
command words and variables or syntax from the 64-bit?

NB: Not a scripter of any sort, haven't looked to see.

Post by Scott Prentice
Thanks Ian.
Yeah .. I suppose if something is broken in the 64-bit version and
it's working in the 32-bit version, that might be a reason to use it.
But if all's working as expected, I'm just not seeing a reason to use
the 32-bit version.
I suppose someone could be using a 32-bit version of Windows, and want
to install FM2019 .. but really? I guess we'll just have to wait and see,
Cheers,
...scott

Post by Ian Proudfoot
Scott,
There may be a need to run the 32 bit version if you run into

ExtendScript ScriptUI bugs that are only present in the 64 bit version.
Hopefully this is a temporary problem...

Post by Ian Proudfoot
Ian
Ian Proudfoot
iTP-X
Bembridge
Isle of Wight
07793 324581
FM2019 is available as 32-bit and 64-bit. That forum post is talking
about FM2017.
Thanks,
...scott

Post by Robert Lauriston
The main reason to run the 32-bit version of FrameMaker is that
there is no 64-bit version.
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2447691

Post by Scott Prentice
If/when you upgrade to FM2019 (or beyond), would any of you be using

the

Post by Scott Prentice
32-bit version? As a plugin developer, I'm thinking that I'll only

support

Post by Scott Prentice
64-bit FM. Is there a reason to support both?
Yes, I've heard that some people will need to run 32-bit FM due to

legacy

Post by Scott Prentice
applications .. are there any other reasons?rs.com

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4XScripts

2018-09-25 12:01:52 UTC

Hi Rick,

the problem is, that Extendscript seems to have forgotten about
"node"-object in 64-bit. In 32-bit it works.

All items are added to treeview object instead of the nodes they should
go to.

Post by Rick Quatro
Hi Ian,
Did you try putting the tree-view control into a group? There is a related
bug where listboxes don't show any content in some environments unless they
are inside a group or panel. I am not sure if this applies to tree views or
not.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-729-6746 NEW!

Rick Quatro

2018-09-25 12:50:12 UTC

Do you know if anyone at Adobe is looking at the problem?

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Subject: Re: [Framers] FM2019 - 32/64-bit?

Hi Rick,

the problem is, that Extendscript seems to have forgotten about "node"-object in 64-bit. In 32-bit it works.

All items are added to treeview object instead of the nodes they should go to.

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4XScripts

2018-09-25 13:49:17 UTC

I don't know.

I've filed a bugreport:

https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-5296

But its status still is "open"

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4XScripts

2018-09-26 08:26:35 UTC

Hi Ian, hi Rick,

_priority updated from 'Normal' to 'Critical'_

https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-5296

So I wait for the next update ....

Post by 4XScripts
I don't know.
https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-5296
But its status still is "open"

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Do you know if anyone at Adobe is looking at the problem?

4XScripts

2018-09-26 09:22:48 UTC

PLEASE VOTE FOR IT (button on the bottom right)

Hi Ian, hi Rick,

_priority updated from 'Normal' to 'Critical'_

https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-5296

So I wait for the next update ....

Post by 4XScripts
I don't know.
https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-5296
But its status still is "open"

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Do you know if anyone at Adobe is looking at the problem?

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2018-09-25 14:21:26 UTC

Hi Rick,

Yes this was reported during the pre-release program. The bug was first seen on the penultimate build, so it was too late to fix before release.

Ian

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Subject: Re: [Framers] FM2019 - 32/64-bit?

Hi Rick,

the problem is, that Extendscript seems to have forgotten about "node"-object in 64-bit. In 32-bit it works.

All items are added to treeview object instead of the nodes they should go to.

Post by Rick Quatro
Hi Ian,
Did you try putting the tree-view control into a group? There is a
related bug where listboxes don't show any content in some
environments unless they are inside a group or panel. I am not sure if
this applies to tree views or not.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-729-6746 NEW!

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2018-09-24 22:09:18 UTC