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Spelling bee champs out there?
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t***@spectrumwritingllc.com
2018-10-25 21:17:08 UTC
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OK, working on a document where the word "height" is used frequently (object
modeling software app.) Framemaker 12 keeps flagging this as a misspelled
word - say what? I have tried to add it to a Dictionary, make it allow the
word, learn the word, and no joy. It keeps barfing on me w/ the message
that I first must Deselect the corresponding Find setting in the Spelling
Checker Options dialog box.



OK, I will admit - in all my years of working w/ FM, I have never seen this
message before and why FM keeps throwing up on a correctly spelled word is
beyond me. Where is this Spelling Checker Options dialog box and why this
message?



Thanks!



TVB



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t***@spectrumwritingllc.com
2018-10-25 21:23:35 UTC
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OK, went to Choose Edit > Spelling Checker and clicked Options. Under Find.
. . what option am I supposed to deselect? I have just the defaults selected
and nothing else. GRRR .. .

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Grant Hogarth
2018-10-25 22:45:43 UTC
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In earlier versions you could edit the site.dict file.

According to the Adobe forums (https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1148638):
In later versions, the Adobe dictionaries are located in a Linguistics
folder. The exact location varies depending upon the O/S, but in Windows
the Linguistics files can be found at any of these locations depending
upon your operating system and installation location (typically drive
C:, but can vary):
\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Linguistics
\Documents and Settings\username\Application
Data\Adobe\Linguistics
\users\username\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Linguistics
That said, I was not able to find a dictionary file (as such) in any of
these folders.

See also:
https://forums.adobe.com/message/7970974#7970974

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Subject: [Framers] Spelling bee champs out there?
Post by t***@spectrumwritingllc.com
OK, working on a document where the word "height" is used frequently (object
modeling software app.) Framemaker 12 keeps flagging this as a
misspelled
word - say what? I have tried to add it to a Dictionary, make it allow the
word, learn the word, and no joy. It keeps barfing on me w/ the message
that I first must Deselect the corresponding Find setting in the Spelling
Checker Options dialog box.
OK, I will admit - in all my years of working w/ FM, I have never seen this
message before and why FM keeps throwing up on a correctly spelled word is
beyond me. Where is this Spelling Checker Options dialog box and why this
message?
Thanks!
TVB
Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
www.spectrumwritingllc.com
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t***@spectrumwritingllc.com
2018-10-26 01:32:45 UTC
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This is the only flagged word in my files that I cannot Allow in document,
Learn, etc. Every other flagged word, be it tooltip, etc. I can either
Learn, Allow, or Add to Dictionary w/out any issues whatsoever and no
changes at all in the Spelling checker Options - all set to default - as it
has been for me since the cows came home w/ FM. This is driving me batty -
if anyone has any ideas, I would appreciate it. (I can't believe it, but
yet I can, that FM would be buggy for this one word!)

FWIW, like Grant, I came up w/ nada, zip, zilch when trying to find a
dictionary in any of the mentioned folders.

Thanks!

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
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From: Framers
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Behalf Of Grant Hogarth
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 4:46 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
<***@lists.frameusers.com>; ***@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Spelling bee champs out there?

In earlier versions you could edit the site.dict file.

According to the Adobe forums (https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1148638):
In later versions, the Adobe dictionaries are located in a Linguistics
folder. The exact location varies depending upon the O/S, but in Windows the
Linguistics files can be found at any of these locations depending upon your
operating system and installation location (typically drive C:, but can
vary):
\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Linguistics
\Documents and Settings\username\Application
Data\Adobe\Linguistics
\users\username\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Linguistics
That said, I was not able to find a dictionary file (as such) in any of
these folders.

See also:
https://forums.adobe.com/message/7970974#7970974

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Sent: 10/25/2018 3:17:08 PM
Subject: [Framers] Spelling bee champs out there?
Post by t***@spectrumwritingllc.com
OK, working on a document where the word "height" is used frequently
(object modeling software app.) Framemaker 12 keeps flagging this as a
misspelled word - say what? I have tried to add it to a Dictionary,
make it allow the word, learn the word, and no joy. It keeps barfing
on me w/ the message that I first must Deselect the corresponding Find
setting in the Spelling Checker Options dialog box.
OK, I will admit - in all my years of working w/ FM, I have never seen
this message before and why FM keeps throwing up on a correctly spelled
word is beyond me. Where is this Spelling Checker Options dialog box
and why this message?
Thanks!
TVB
Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
www.spectrumwritingllc.com
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Stephen Rickaby
2018-10-26 07:11:31 UTC
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...if anyone has any ideas, I would appreciate it. (I can't believe it, but
yet I can, that FM would be buggy for this one word!)
Maybe it's just FrameMaker being a bit more human. I have a few words that I can't abide. Such as 'deal' ;-)

To be sensible for a moment (why?), is there any possibility that your source document has been compiled from some cut and paste operation that has resulted in each instance of the problem word containing, say, hidden characters?

I ask because whenever I work on a document with a lot of repetition, I use a text expander instead of endlessly typing, say, antidisestablishmentarianism or whatever, and if the source word in the expander somehow has cruft in it, you get that cruft in every instance of the word. I have also programmed the expander with my all favorite typos: maybe your author got sick of typing 'hieght' and then correcting it?

Just a thought... Other than that, maybe try a reinstall of FrameMaker? But odds on it's a problem with the document rather than with the app.
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t***@spectrumwritingllc.com
2018-10-30 23:48:20 UTC
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Nope, no cut and paste. Original text only. I am the author. And it is the
app as it is flagged in other documents as well.

Thanks!

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
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Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 1:12 AM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Spelling bee champs out there?
...if anyone has any ideas, I would appreciate it. (I can't believe
it, but yet I can, that FM would be buggy for this one word!)
Maybe it's just FrameMaker being a bit more human. I have a few words that I
can't abide. Such as 'deal' ;-)

To be sensible for a moment (why?), is there any possibility that your
source document has been compiled from some cut and paste operation that has
resulted in each instance of the problem word containing, say, hidden
characters?

I ask because whenever I work on a document with a lot of repetition, I use
a text expander instead of endlessly typing, say,
antidisestablishmentarianism or whatever, and if the source word in the
expander somehow has cruft in it, you get that cruft in every instance of
the word. I have also programmed the expander with my all favorite typos:
maybe your author got sick of typing 'hieght' and then correcting it?

Just a thought... Other than that, maybe try a reinstall of FrameMaker? But
odds on it's a problem with the document rather than with the app.

--
Steve
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Grant Hogarth
2018-10-31 02:12:20 UTC
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Well, so much for those theories.... <wry smile>

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Subject: RE: [Framers] Spelling bee champs out there?
Post by t***@spectrumwritingllc.com
Nope, no cut and paste. Original text only. I am the author. And it is the
app as it is flagged in other documents as well.
Thanks!
TVB
Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
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-----Original Message-----
From: Framers
Behalf Of Stephen Rickaby
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 1:12 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] Spelling bee champs out there?
...if anyone has any ideas, I would appreciate it. (I can't believe
it, but yet I can, that FM would be buggy for this one word!)
Maybe it's just FrameMaker being a bit more human. I have a few words that I
can't abide. Such as 'deal' ;-)
To be sensible for a moment (why?), is there any possibility that your
source document has been compiled from some cut and paste operation that has
resulted in each instance of the problem word containing, say, hidden
characters?
I ask because whenever I work on a document with a lot of repetition, I use
a text expander instead of endlessly typing, say,
antidisestablishmentarianism or whatever, and if the source word in the
expander somehow has cruft in it, you get that cruft in every instance of
maybe your author got sick of typing 'hieght' and then correcting it?
Just a thought... Other than that, maybe try a reinstall of FrameMaker? But
odds on it's a problem with the document rather than with the app.
--
Steve
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t***@spectrumwritingllc.com
2018-11-01 13:52:34 UTC
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Yea, I hate it when you think you have nailed it something right on the head, only to find out that that isn’t the case. . .

Thanks for the thoughts tho'!

Onward and upward - at least I gotta' keep telling myself this. . .

Tammy Van Boening
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Subject: Re[2]: [Framers] Spelling bee champs out there?

Well, so much for those theories.... <wry smile>

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Nope, no cut and paste. Original text only. I am the author. And it is
the app as it is flagged in other documents as well.
Thanks!
TVB
Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
www.spectrumwritingllc.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Framers
Behalf Of Stephen Rickaby
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 1:12 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] Spelling bee champs out there?
...if anyone has any ideas, I would appreciate it. (I can't believe
it, but yet I can, that FM would be buggy for this one word!)
Maybe it's just FrameMaker being a bit more human. I have a few words
that I can't abide. Such as 'deal' ;-)
To be sensible for a moment (why?), is there any possibility that your
source document has been compiled from some cut and paste operation
that has resulted in each instance of the problem word containing, say,
hidden characters?
I ask because whenever I work on a document with a lot of repetition, I
use a text expander instead of endlessly typing, say,
antidisestablishmentarianism or whatever, and if the source word in the
expander somehow has cruft in it, you get that cruft in every instance
of the word. I have also programmed the expander with my all favorite
maybe your author got sick of typing 'hieght' and then correcting it?
Just a thought... Other than that, maybe try a reinstall of FrameMaker? But
odds on it's a problem with the document rather than with the app.
--
Steve
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Grant Hogarth
2018-10-30 18:19:33 UTC
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Good thought Stephen!
Alternatively, a "lookalike" character from a different alphabet?
Grant

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Spelling bee champs out there?
Post by Stephen Rickaby
...if anyone has any ideas, I would appreciate it. (I can't believe
it, but
yet I can, that FM would be buggy for this one word!)
Maybe it's just FrameMaker being a bit more human. I have a few words
that I can't abide. Such as 'deal' ;-)
To be sensible for a moment (why?), is there any possibility that your
source document has been compiled from some cut and paste operation
that has resulted in each instance of the problem word containing, say,
hidden characters?
I ask because whenever I work on a document with a lot of repetition, I
use a text expander instead of endlessly typing, say,
antidisestablishmentarianism or whatever, and if the source word in the
expander somehow has cruft in it, you get that cruft in every instance
of the word. I have also programmed the expander with my all favorite
typos: maybe your author got sick of typing 'hieght' and then
correcting it?
Just a thought... Other than that, maybe try a reinstall of FrameMaker?
But odds on it's a problem with the document rather than with the app.
--
Steve
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Theresa de Valence
2018-10-30 22:20:48 UTC
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I have a hazy memory of a similar problem which was fixed by Search
<CopyOfBadWord> then Replace with <text>.

Theresa
Post by Grant Hogarth
Good thought Stephen!
Alternatively, a "lookalike" character from a different alphabet?
Grant
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Sent: 10/26/2018 1:11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Framers] Spelling bee champs out there?
Post by Stephen Rickaby
...if anyone has any ideas, I would appreciate it.  (I can't believe
it, but
yet I can, that FM would be buggy for this one word!)
Maybe it's just FrameMaker being a bit more human. I have a few words
that I can't abide. Such as 'deal' ;-)
To be sensible for a moment (why?), is there any possibility that your
source document has been compiled from some cut and paste operation
that has resulted in each instance of the problem word containing,
say, hidden characters?
I ask because whenever I work on a document with a lot of repetition,
I use a text expander instead of endlessly typing, say,
antidisestablishmentarianism or whatever, and if the source word in
the expander somehow has cruft in it, you get that cruft in every
instance of the word. I have also programmed the expander with my all
favorite typos: maybe your author got sick of typing 'hieght' and then
correcting it?
Just a thought... Other than that, maybe try a reinstall of
FrameMaker? But odds on it's a problem with the document rather than
with the app.
--
Steve
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Klaus Daube
2018-10-26 09:33:59 UTC
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Tammy,
I just copied your mail-text into a new document of FM-12.0.4.445 and did not get a
flagged "height":

It may depend on Your settings in Edit > Preferences. Mine are these:


And for the dictionary files: This is a mess. See
https://daube.ch/docu/files/FMdict-en.pdf page 13ff.

HTH
Klaus

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Doug
2018-10-26 11:55:22 UTC
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My Frame 2017 doesn't flag the word height as misspelled. It did, however,
when I had it in quotes. Does your Frame flag the word as misspelled even
if it's not in quotes?
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t***@spectrumwritingllc.com
2018-10-26 22:25:26 UTC
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Yep, that’s what I have. And yes, the dictionary files are indeed a mess.
At this point, unless anyone knows how to use a hammer and duct tape on a
dictionary in FM, I am living w/ it until it gets to be too much.



TVB



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Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 3:34 AM
To: “Tammy Van Boening” <***@spectrumwritingllc.com>;
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Subject: Re: Spelling bee champs out there?



Tammy,

I just copied your mail-text into a new document of FM-12.0.4.445 and did
not get a flagged "height":



It may depend on Your settings in Edit > Preferences. Mine are these:





And for the dictionary files: This is a mess. See
https://daube.ch/docu/files/FMdict-en.pdf page 13ff.



HTH

Klaus



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tammyvb
2018-10-26 12:58:29 UTC
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Yes, it does, even if it is not in quotes.


Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.Pardon the typos!
-------- Original message --------From: Doug <***@gmail.com> Date: 10/26/18 5:55 AM (GMT-07:00) To: Framers <***@lists.frameusers.com> Subject: Re: [Framers] Spelling bee champs out there?
My Frame 2017 doesn't flag the word height as misspelled.  It did, however,
when I had it in quotes.  Does your Frame flag the word as misspelled even
if it's not in quotes?
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t***@spectrumwritingllc.com
2018-10-26 21:53:41 UTC
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OK, so I have NEVER, EVER touched any of the dictionary files after installing FM 12 on Windows 10 - and a couple of nice folks offlist confirmed that it is my dictionary files that are somehow screwed up. Short of uninstalling and reinstalling FM 12 (which will be a cold day in you know what before I do), does anyone have any ideas about how to repair a corrupt dictionary file? Because now another word, genome, is also not having fun in my world. GRRRR. . .

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Spelling bee champs out there?

Yes, it does, even if it is not in quotes.


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-------- Original message --------From: Doug <***@gmail.com> Date: 10/26/18 5:55 AM (GMT-07:00) To: Framers <***@lists.frameusers.com> Subject: Re: [Framers] Spelling bee champs out there?
My Frame 2017 doesn't flag the word height as misspelled. It did, however, when I had it in quotes. Does your Frame flag the word as misspelled even if it's not in quotes?
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Monique Semp
2018-10-26 21:56:01 UTC
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Post by t***@spectrumwritingllc.com
does anyone have any ideas about how to repair a corrupt dictionary
file
Might you have a backup solution that keeps backups for long enough
that you could peruse the backups for a dictionary file old enough to
pre-date when the troubles started?
-Monique
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