Any way to key out of a selected table?

[Kenneth C. Benson]

I'm converting text to table a few thousand times and I want to stop
having to use the mouse. I can Find the beginning of the text, shift
arrow down to the bottom of the text, use ALT t v Enter to convert text
to table, but then when I use Find Next it tells me "No Insertion Point"
(because the entire table is selected).

Is there a keystroke to deselect the table and move the cursor beyond it?

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Kenneth,

You can use Escape t I (capital i) to move the insertion point out of the
table.

You may want to consider automating the whole process with FrameScript. If
you are interested, send me a sample of your document offlist. Thank you
very much.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

Post by Kenneth C. Benson
I'm converting text to table a few thousand times and I want to stop
having to use the mouse. I can Find the beginning of the text, shift arrow
down to the bottom of the text, use ALT t v Enter to convert text to
table, but then when I use Find Next it tells me "No Insertion Point"
(because the entire table is selected).
Is there a keystroke to deselect the table and move the cursor beyond it?
--
Kenneth Benson
Pegasus Type, Inc.
www.pegtype.com

[Kenneth C. Benson]

Post by Rick Quatro
You can use Escape t I (capital i) to move the insertion point out of
the table.

Yes, this works nicely.

Kenneth Benson
Pegasus Type, Inc.
www.pegtype.com

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Alt t p

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson

Post by Kenneth C. Benson
I'm converting text to table a few thousand times and I want to stop
having to use the mouse. I can Find the beginning of the text, shift
arrow down to the bottom of the text, use ALT t v Enter to convert
text to table, but then when I use Find Next it tells me "No Insertion
Point" (because the entire table is selected).
Is there a keystroke to deselect the table and move the cursor beyond it?

[Kenneth C. Benson]

Post by Shmuel Wolfson
Alt t p

This pulls down the Table menu, but there is no "p" option. I should
have mentioned I'm working in FM 7.2 on Windows. Maybe this is different
in your version/OS?

Kenneth Benson
Pegasus Type, Inc.
www.pegtype.com

[Shmuel Wolfson]

On my system it pulls down the Table menu, then selects Place Cursor
After Table Anchor. Check which letter is underlined on your system for
this option.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson

Post by Kenneth C. Benson

Post by Shmuel Wolfson
Alt t p

This pulls down the Table menu, but there is no "p" option. I should
have mentioned I'm working in FM 7.2 on Windows. Maybe this is
different in your version/OS?
Kenneth Benson
Pegasus Type, Inc.
www.pegtype.com
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[Rick Quatro]

Hi Shmuel,

You must have some custom setup because this is not a standard FrameMaker
menu command.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

On my system it pulls down the Table menu, then selects Place Cursor After
Table Anchor. Check which letter is underlined on your system for this
option.
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson

Post by Shmuel Wolfson
Alt t p

This pulls down the Table menu, but there is no "p" option. I should have
mentioned I'm working in FM 7.2 on Windows. Maybe this is different in
your version/OS?
Kenneth Benson
Pegasus Type, Inc.
www.pegtype.com
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[Shmuel Wolfson]

It could be. I have Shlomo Peretz's customization kit installed. If you
have 1000 tables, it may be worth it just for this feature. It's pretty
cheap. But check with Shlomo first if this indeed a feature of his
customization kit.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson

Post by Rick Quatro
Hi Shmuel,
You must have some custom setup because this is not a standard
FrameMaker menu command.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

Post by Shmuel Wolfson
On my system it pulls down the Table menu, then selects Place Cursor
After Table Anchor. Check which letter is underlined on your system
for this option.
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson

Post by Kenneth C. Benson

Post by Shmuel Wolfson
Alt t p

This pulls down the Table menu, but there is no "p" option. I should
have mentioned I'm working in FM 7.2 on Windows. Maybe this is
different in your version/OS?
Kenneth Benson
Pegasus Type, Inc.
www.pegtype.com
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[Karen Mardahl]

Hi

About shortcuts to key out of a table

The Alt t p shortcut does indeed come with the Toolbar Express plug-in
from Shlomo Peretz at microtype.com.
I was unsure whether this came with Rick Quatro's TableCleaner, but my
TE user guide confirmed it's from Shlomo.

Hurrah for these brilliant plug-ins. How can anyone live without them? :-)

For those with the bare bones, I guess you'll have to use Esc t shift
i (to get uppercase I). Works fine even with these plug-ins installed,
so I guess that is a standard Frame shortcut.

How do you get back into the table? (Without having to do a Find

of any kind, just a simple hop?)

And one more tip: If you have FrameScript, get the script for
navigating in tables with arrows from itl.de. No more tabbing. Just
use the arrows to hop up, down, left, or right. Lovely.

regards, Karen Mardahl, a happy user of TE and TC and the scripts from
the talented script writers at itl.de!

[Kenneth C. Benson]

Post by Shmuel Wolfson
On my system it pulls down the Table menu, then selects Place Cursor
After Table Anchor. Check which letter is underlined on your system for
this option.

Interesting. Place Cursor After Table Anchor is not an option on my
system. Are you sure this isn't part of a plug-in?

Kenneth Benson
Pegasus Type, Inc.
www.pegtype.com

[Rene Stephenson]

If you have FrameScript, there's also a script you can get (from ITL, I think, not sure...) that allows navigating through tables the way you can in Word.

Rick does a FAB job with custom scripts, too!!!!! And also check out his TableCleaner plugin that runs without the FS engine, bc it's got some handy tools for manipulating the tables in FM.

HTH
Rene Stephenson

Rick Quatro <***@truevine.net> wrote:
Hi Kenneth,

You can use Escape t I (capital i) to move the insertion point out of the
table.

You may want to consider automating the whole process with FrameScript. If
you are interested, send me a sample of your document offlist. Thank you
very much.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

Post by Kenneth C. Benson
I'm converting text to table a few thousand times and I want to stop
having to use the mouse. I can Find the beginning of the text, shift arrow
down to the bottom of the text, use ALT t v Enter to convert text to
table, but then when I use Find Next it tells me "No Insertion Point"
(because the entire table is selected).
Is there a keystroke to deselect the table and move the cursor beyond it?
--
Kenneth Benson
Pegasus Type, Inc.
www.pegtype.com

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[Diane Gaskill]

Hi FrameFolks,

As some of you might remember, a few weeks ago, I posted some messages to
the list regarding my company's research into changing from Word to either
ArborText or Structured FM. I received several excellent responses to my
questions and created a 4-page spreadsheet comparing the two products.
Using this information, and after several weeks of discussions with our
parent company in Japan, we decided to use Sructured FrameMaker.

Anyway, I wanted to write and say thank you to all those who took the time
to write and provide information. You were most helpful and I really do
appreciate your efforts.

Best regards,

Diane Gaskill
Lead Writer, Hitachi Data Systems

(Looks like I'll be staying on this list for another 14 years. :-)

[Combs, Richard]

Post by Diane Gaskill
As some of you might remember, a few weeks ago, I posted some
messages to the list regarding my company's research into
changing from Word to either ArborText or Structured FM. I
received several excellent responses to my questions and
created a 4-page spreadsheet comparing the two products.
Using this information, and after several weeks of
discussions with our parent company in Japan, we decided to
use Sructured FrameMaker.

Congratulations! Now, if you're really living right, Adobe will release
FM 8 in time for you all to jump right into that. :-)

Richard


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Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
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rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
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[Diane Gaskill]

Hi Richard,

Believe it or not, we have talked about exactly what you suggested, but we don't know how long that will be until the next version of FM is released, and se need to get started. So we're getting 7.2 and will upgrade whenever the next version of FM comes out. I'm Beta testing it, incidentally, and I kinardley wait for it to be available for the rest of my team. Adobe did a good job with it. (But I'm on an NDA and I can't even say if it's called FM8 or not.)

Kinardley? Oh, that's just a name I got from my car. It's a Rolls-Kinardley.
Rolls down the one hill, kinardley get up the next.

Happy Friday. :-)

Diane

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Sent: Jul 13, 2007 1:12 PM
Subject: RE: Slightly OT: A happy announcement

Post by Diane Gaskill
As some of you might remember, a few weeks ago, I posted some
messages to the list regarding my company's research into
changing from Word to either ArborText or Structured FM. I
received several excellent responses to my questions and
created a 4-page spreadsheet comparing the two products.
Using this information, and after several weeks of
discussions with our parent company in Japan, we decided to
use Sructured FrameMaker.

Congratulations! Now, if you're really living right, Adobe will release
FM 8 in time for you all to jump right into that. :-)
Richard
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Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
------
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
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